Comments on: Kleeneze UK

By: Cameron McArthur

Cameron McArthur — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:35:10 +0000

Call me what you will, a failed distributor even, it doesn’t hurt. What hurts is the hours I have put into this business for the measly returns I have made. Less than a £1.00 per hour and I did work hard, a lot more than the 10-15 hours a week we are obliged to advertise, more like 10 hours a day. But truth be told it is a business and money can be made after substantial investment is made. I entered this venture to get an income after being made redundant. I didn’t want a business but that is what being a distributor is, what I really wanted (a livable income ),was lost in all the propaganda I was reading, or was it brain washing I was undergoing. Whatever it was, I failed because I was immune to the rhetoric I was hearing from my sponsor. I often think they are machines programmed to believe all they expound, but no slur on them or Kleeneze, it is the nature of the beast and I am glad to be a failed distributor because I feel far more enlightened in what really matters. Having a happy life, without Kleeneze’s indoctrination

By: Keith Taylor

Keith Taylor — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:01:44 +0000

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By: alex

alex — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:03:19 +0000

hi, I am a single mum & I’ve had a very bad experience working as a Kleeneze distributor. I’ve been with them 4 months, cleared profit £ .90 approx. Decided to do the honest thing and declare working for kleeneze to the benefits office. kleeneze refuse to provide me with a certificate of income- because I haven’t earnt enough. as a consequence, I am now recieving no benefit, no housing benefit and being evicted from my home .Kleeneze have not helped me to sort this out – all they have said to the is that I do not work for them. My account has been suspended because of arrears – which i have now cleared- and I’ve been told I cannot rejoin for 2 years. what about all the catalogues etc I stil have?
VERY DISAPPOINTED !!!!!

By: Simon

Simon — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:56:49 +0000

How long are Findel going to hold on to the loss making Kleeneze, they have been dragging the company down since purchase even though they as much as closed European expansion and have asset stripped Kleenezes premises and staff and merging the operation in with theirs in Accrington.
They never wanted Kleeneze in the first place and bid to acquire the “Kit-Bag business” attached to Kleeneze and “I Want One Of Those”, the sale of the Bristol premises etc must have evened up the books a great deal….even at the first Kleeneze conference Patrick Jolly admitted this, but was willing to give Kleeneze a chance.

With the way their shares are dipping and the current economical climate, the axe will have to drop somewhere soon!

21st March 2007 £7.83p

02 July 2008 £1.46p

By: matty

matty — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:14:39 +0000

The laziness thing is always said by Kleeneze ppl. They say things like Kleenze works, its the ppl that don’t. What a bloody ignorant way to talk about ppl, many of whom have in fact put in many hours of hard work (making the ppl who are now saying these things about them money). It is sheer ignorance & it shows just what a distributors upline really think about their downline.

Believe me, your upline will not be your friend if you leave the business, they are conditional friends – they only want to be your friend for as long as their is a chance you will make them money.

By: matty

matty — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:09:01 +0000

Don’t you love MLM ppl, like Colin Thompsett, who are so proud of their op they have to hide it behind blind ads?

By: colin thompsett

colin thompsett — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:35:30 +0000

Well! I was in Kleeneze way back in the 90,s and it worked for me IF I WORKED, But it id d take a helluva lot of effort and I couldn’t make big money>Now I have found anMLM business where the company builds it for me. !! Unbeliveable? That’s what I thought when I first heard it . But I did it anyway and I’m glad I did. Tryit , You’ll see.FREE!

By: Simon Tate

Simon Tate — Mon, 12 May 2008 00:34:41 +0000

Hi Tim
I am also a Gold distributor, but I am fully aware that you CANNOT retire and still hope to have an income unless you are very lucky.
Your P.S.G. has always got to be inplace and with the amount of people leaving the business on a monthly basis, that can be a constant struggle.
Its OK for a second income but I know active SEDs who struggle to keep their PSGs in place never mind somebody wanting to take a back seat.
Simon

By: Katy

Katy — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:46:53 +0000

Having done Kleeneze for almost 2 years, I take great offence at the accusations of laziness.

From a personal level, I worked Kleeneze for around 30-40 hours per week on top of my full-time day job. I don’t think you could say that I was lazy in any shape or form! I KNOW that my downline also worked extremely hard to try and make this thing work. All of us were encouraged to invest our meagre profits (and more) in advertising for recruits, travelling to the over-hyped meetings etc. .

The operational problems of running the business are too numerous to mention. Just a few – late deliveries, out of stocks, poor quality over priced goods, broken or missing items together with the many extra charges involved were amongst the many things that made it an unviable business. Extremely labour intensive and requires a lot of re-investment for lost catalogues etc.

Just to give you an idea, my best ever month for turnover produced a net profit of £5. Yes, for an entire month’s work!! The income cheques you see are NOT a true reflection of the money you actually get in your pocket. From that declaration of ‘income’ you have to deduct VAT , advertising, petrol costs, telephone , stationery, postage- all the normal overheads for a business. Of course, you are not told this at the time, you just see the big figure and are led to believe that it is actual, achievable net income.

You are not told any of this when you join.

I understand that if you just want to do a bit of retail, that’s fine but the general culture is to actively encourage people to recruit others – it’s the nature of the beast. I witnessed some VERY desperate recruiting by others. The last one I saw before I left was a young couple with three children under 5, no car and husband seriously ill and incapacitated, being reassured that they could easily make an extra £50-£100 per week. That really shocked me, they were set up to fail and they did. I was disgusted and it was the final nail in the coffin for me.

On the plus side, my time with Kleeneze introduced me to personal development, which I probably would never have discovered otherwise.

Network marketing is an excellent way to make money and I don’t have a problem with it per se.

I’m now with a NM company that pays me true residual income, with a distributor churn rate of less than 2% so my income is not downline dependent, people simply do not leave! My income is also not reliant on customer re-ordering, I see my customer once and that’s it, I receive income from my customers every month, whether I do any more work or not. Customer churn rate is also less than 2%, so it’s pretty much guaranteed income. There’s no catalogues, no stock to handle, no cash handling, extremely low overheads and minimal re-investment. It’s a very clean business.

So, for all of you who have had a bad experience with Kleeneze, don’t let this put you off network marketing altogether! There are some excellent, workable companies, you just have to do a bit of research before you hand over your registration fee.

For all of you who are still with Kleeneze, good luck.

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:14:26 +0000

Matty,
Thanks for your reply.
That was very informative. There may be a brighter future in the window cleaning business.
In actual fact Matty, my income cheque is about £1200 but I don’t show that to people. I show them cheques for £200-£500 because that is what the majority of people who reply to the adverts are looking for.
I agree with you. Team building is very bloody hard. I do believe though that once you have gone through that hard work, you honestly can retire. And that’s what I want. I want to have peace of mind when my bills arrive when I have stopped working.
The other attraction of Kleeneze to me was that I could do it in whichever bits of time I have left.
I work 56 hours a week in my full-time job and fitting something else around it, like window cleaning for instance, would not have been possible.
I believe that the salary most people get in their jobs is shocking.
I introduced a carer to the business 2 weeks ago. She works 20 hours a week in her job as a carer and comes out with £80 a week. I can honestly tell you hand on my heart she is earning £300+ a month with Kleeneze and that is turning her life around.
You see, I know that building a team may require a massive effort. But it’s been done. And without meaning it disrespectfully, I refuse to accept that others can do it but I can’t.
I’ll give it my best shot and see what happens.
All the best with the window cleaning Matty.
And, btw, nice to have a thread from somebody who can get his ideas and feelings across without the urge to be rude, cynical or argumentative.