Comments on: Ethos FR takes on Bioperformance http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/ News and links for network marketing entrepreneurs Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:30:19 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Anti 4PlanetEarth Person http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-157222 Anti 4PlanetEarth Person Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:24:53 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-157222 It ALWAYS amazes me when people think lies don't matter. If Teresa Holliday (whose brain is obviously on permanent "holiday") had one live brain cell actually working and if she could get past the "I won a prize!" mentality, she might consider for one moment that if they lied ONCE they will lie AGAIN. THEY ARE STILL LYING! Her mentality is, "So they lied! Big deal! Shut up and make money!" Apparently, "IT Department" in her case must stand for "Idiot Train". These WONDERFUL people at 4-E were advised by their attorney to REMOVE the 7-19% fuel savings from their site because they could NOT prove it (they subsequently fired her and hired some "yes men"). All their claimed "tests" on the Ethos product were actually performed by another company on another COMPETING PRODUCT for whom ENRIQUE had previouslyworked -- then when this competing company discovered that Enrique was embezzeling funds, trying to steal the formula and actually stealing PRODUCT and RELABELING it, he ran away and started his own company. ISN'T THAT NICE? This is the wonderful man who claims to be "all about ethics" who "4planetearth" representatives are working so hard for. AND those are the sorts of lies that don't matter to Teresa and David. All that matters is that they make money. What a bunch of monkeys. Only stupid people (or street walkers) don't care about anything other than "am I making money?" David Reid, after all he KNEW withdrew but went running back because he thought he could make some more money -- even though the people at the helm who did all the lying -- Dan and Enrique - are still running the ship. No one like to see liars and thieves succeed... well, no one except for Teresa and David and the miniscule amount of people to whom ETHICS (isn't that part of the mantra they all drone about?) doesn't matter. Ethics my backside! It ALWAYS amazes me when people think lies don’t matter. If Teresa Holliday (whose brain is obviously on permanent “holiday”) had one live brain cell actually working and if she could get past the “I won a prize!” mentality, she might consider for one moment that if they lied ONCE they will lie AGAIN. THEY ARE STILL LYING! Her mentality is, “So they lied! Big deal! Shut up and make money!” Apparently, “IT Department” in her case must stand for “Idiot Train”. These WONDERFUL people at 4-E were advised by their attorney to REMOVE the 7-19% fuel savings from their site because they could NOT prove it (they subsequently fired her and hired some “yes men”). All their claimed “tests” on the Ethos product were actually performed by another company on another COMPETING PRODUCT for whom ENRIQUE had previouslyworked — then when this competing company discovered that Enrique was embezzeling funds, trying to steal the formula and actually stealing PRODUCT and RELABELING it, he ran away and started his own company. ISN’T THAT NICE? This is the wonderful man who claims to be “all about ethics” who “4planetearth” representatives are working so hard for. AND those are the sorts of lies that don’t matter to Teresa and David. All that matters is that they make money. What a bunch of monkeys. Only stupid people (or street walkers) don’t care about anything other than “am I making money?” David Reid, after all he KNEW withdrew but went running back because he thought he could make some more money — even though the people at the helm who did all the lying — Dan and Enrique – are still running the ship. No one like to see liars and thieves succeed… well, no one except for Teresa and David and the miniscule amount of people to whom ETHICS (isn’t that part of the mantra they all drone about?) doesn’t matter. Ethics my backside!

]]> By: R. McCoy http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-146617 R. McCoy Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:49:42 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-146617 There is no miracle in a bottle, no matter what anyone thinks. Anyone who thinks their vehicle runs better or gets better mileage is delusional, scamming others, or more than likely, suffering from the severe placebo effect these things create. Car makers are under intense pressure and they scrounge for every fraction of an MPG they can get. If this stuff, or any other, actually worked the refineries would be adding this to refined gasoline under a government mandate. There is no miracle in a bottle, no matter what anyone thinks. Anyone who thinks their vehicle runs better or gets better mileage is delusional, scamming others, or more than likely, suffering from the severe placebo effect these things create.

Car makers are under intense pressure and they scrounge for every fraction of an MPG they can get. If this stuff, or any other, actually worked the refineries would be adding this to refined gasoline under a government mandate.

]]> By: Richard Snell http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-36720 Richard Snell Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:52:40 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-36720 It seems that anyone can post anything and people believe what they write. I was in the hospital for the last weeks in November caused by a MRSA in my face. I never wrote any emails or letters to anybody because they don't allow computers in isolation. I still stand by everything I posted that had documentation and court records to back up my claim. I never wrote to Phil Piccolo or Joel Sauceda. Phil Piccolo started 4-E and now that nobody deals with him he has been unable to sell and MLM business. Omstar is doing business as a commercial distributor and things are going well. If anybody wants to talk about Ethos or 4-E they can call or write. Richard Snell RichardSnell2000@aol.com 713-278-7018 It seems that anyone can post anything and people believe what they write. I was in the hospital for the last weeks in November caused by a MRSA in my face. I never wrote any emails or letters to anybody because they don’t allow computers in isolation.

I still stand by everything I posted that had documentation and court records to back up my claim. I never wrote to Phil Piccolo or Joel Sauceda. Phil Piccolo started 4-E and now that nobody deals with him he has been unable to sell and MLM business. Omstar is doing business as a commercial distributor and things are going well. If anybody wants to talk about Ethos or 4-E they can call or write.

Richard Snell
RichardSnell2000@aol.com
713-278-7018

]]> By: Teresa Holladay http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-36532 Teresa Holladay Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:22:01 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-36532 I posted on this forum back in June. I am still a 4E Ethos Distributor. I still maintain the Prelaunch Distributor blog (http://downshiftyourcost.blogspot.com) I noted in June. I went to the warehouse for the 4E Day at the Launch on November 3. I even won the contest to share in 2% of Company Revenues. I just want to say, I'm glad I did my own thinking and homework on all the issues that were raised in this forum. I hung in there. I am an intelligent IT Professional who worked for one of the top ten companies in America and for one of the world's largest IT companies. You know what? Scandal happens. Lies and innuendo happen. Buggy prelaunches happen. Competitors happen. Gossip happens. Jumping to conclusions happens. Good also happens. When you go into business for yourself, as you do in network marketing, you have to learn how to evaluate good and bad for yourself. You do your homework. You're careful and methodical. You know jump in and out like a frog. I see posts in this forum where people say, "Tried it in my own vehicle and it didn't work". In one vehicle? In the IT world, if you drew that conclusion with that little homework you would not be on my team for long. You know what? When I received my first 24 bottles, I went to 24 people and said, each one of you try this, I need to know if it works. It was a fabulous learning experience. (First thing you learn is, most people have no idea what their mileage is. Second thing is, on or off Ethos, mpg fluctuates). It doesn't produce huge results in all vehicles. But it produces substantial results in most vehicles. Yes, it happens to work in my car. And my HC emissions -- which I test frequently-- are almost unmeasurable after six months on Ethos. And now I have the satisfaction of helping a co-worker bring home more of his paycheck: he delivers for Pizza Hut on weekends so he can pay medical bills. I'm helping him save on gas money. I help my brother save 50% (yes, 50%) of his monthly fuel bill so he can pay HIS family medical bills. I'm glad to be a thinking business owner who can go the distance. Teresa Holladay By: former 4E Rep http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-34673 former 4E Rep Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:58:54 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-34673 Let's see here. We were first lead to believe that Ethos-FR was already doing in excess of a $100 Million Dollars Annually per year. $7 Million a month to China alone. We were told that Enrique, the CEO of Ethos was a Harvard Grad with many patents to his name including one for the Ethos-Fr product. He was nominated for the Nobel prize. This company is 10 year's old. Each and every statement that is above can now be PROVEN TO BE FALSE. They are going public? YES, that is actually true, but with that said, they just had to release their financial statements for the last several years. $100 Mil in sales-LOL- try just a little over 2 million and most of that came from 4E-corp reps. As a matter a fact, they are actually showing minus 5 million on their books. Just were is the other $98 Million? They even went as far as inviting a few leaders out to their headquarters in June to show them several very large government contracts from Governments around the world, so they could pass on to us that these were for real. It now turns out these were ALL forged documents and there is no large contracts with ANY government (including the US Military they also claimed to be using this product) There is NO patent on this product like they also lead us to believe. They are not 10 years old, but just barley 6 years old. Enrique never attend Harvard, in fact it was a collage out in California that was never completed. He has more law suits pending then anyone I have ever seen. He just recently paid of a $90,000 judgement to the city of San Diego with his first big payment from 4E-corp. I could keep going on and on, but I think this enough to get my point across if you are even considering promoting this company or (Lord help you) are still trying to promote this, when you have been being lied to from day one. Phil may have crossed the line in sending us all that (what we thought at the time)garbage, but the fact is, he was 98% accurate in what he posted. Don't lose your integrity by getting involved with a company all built on lies. Let’s see here.
We were first lead to believe that Ethos-FR was already doing in excess of a $100 Million Dollars Annually per year. $7 Million a month to China alone. We were told that Enrique, the CEO of Ethos was a Harvard Grad with many patents to his name including one for the Ethos-Fr product. He was nominated for the Nobel prize. This company is 10 year’s old.
Each and every statement that is above can now be PROVEN TO BE FALSE.
They are going public? YES, that is actually true, but with that said, they just had to release their financial statements for the last several years. $100 Mil in sales-LOL- try just a little over 2 million and most of that came from 4E-corp reps. As a matter a fact, they are actually showing minus 5 million on their books. Just were is the other $98 Million?
They even went as far as inviting a few leaders out to their headquarters in June to show them several very large government contracts from Governments around the world, so they could pass on to us that these were for real. It now turns out these were ALL forged documents and there is no large contracts with ANY government (including the US Military they also claimed to be using this product)
There is NO patent on this product like they also lead us to believe.
They are not 10 years old, but just barley 6 years old.
Enrique never attend Harvard, in fact it was a collage out in California that was never completed.
He has more law suits pending then anyone I have ever seen. He just recently paid of a $90,000 judgement to the city of San Diego with his first big payment from 4E-corp.

I could keep going on and on, but I think this enough to get my point across if you are even considering promoting this company or (Lord help you) are still trying to promote this, when you have been being lied to from day one.

Phil may have crossed the line in sending us all that (what we thought at the time)garbage, but the fact is, he was 98% accurate in what he posted.

Don’t lose your integrity by getting involved with a company all built on lies.

]]> By: David Reid http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-32802 David Reid Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:20:48 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-32802 Hey folks. Interesting to come back to this forum after all these months! Wow. We have a little 20/20 vision here that we did not have a few months ago. As many of you know, 4E went through a terribly chaotic prelaunch. Members of 4E we subjected to the incessant spam first from Phil Picallo, and then from Richard Snell. It was really bad, and it did seriously hurt the moral of 4E members, of this there is no doubt. People went elsewhere, sick and tired of this battle, and not really knowing the truth of what was happening. You can't blame them! It was an all out war. But here we are, in the beginning of November, and it's an interesting veiw point. Major changes have transpired with the 4E managagement, and it is almost as if the company is recreating itself anew. Stranger than fiction, product is shipping out, people are flying in from many countries for their Launch event, the site has been redesigned, and there are no more spam emails from Richard or Phill. I have no idea what happened to AATCM, but I heard that Phil has long left. Ironic. 4E continues to pay people week after week, without missing a beat. Though the product seems to work differently for different people due to the many variables, it does appear that people are getting consistant good results with the Ethos product. I actually heard that Enrique is poised to go public in the very near future. Now, I am not in any way apologizing or even claiming to know the truth about some of the drama that went on. I certainly do not. I did personally have to step back for the past months, to see what came of it, to see what the truth actually was. I still don't know! There all kinds of inconsistancies, challenges, problems, red flags, issues, dramas etc. Oh yes there were! But I do know that Dan Atkinson is truly dedicated to moving through all challenges, and is fully the captain of the 4E ship. And judging from the fact that: Product continues to be shipped on time, checks are being paid on time, Enrique is on track to go public from what we are told,credit cards are being accepted for purchases and for autoship, autoship has been activated, and this company seems like it is not dissapearing any time soon. And for your entertainment purposes, I am going to copy an email I got re: a correspondence between Phil Picallo and Richard Snell. After all these two put us through, it is interesting to read this! The following is for informational and ENTERTAINMENT purposes only! November ,2006 Phil's Message To Richard Snell PHIL'S MESSAGE: Richard Snell enough is enough... with every word that comes out of your mouth all you say is lies... I am not in Kansas with some trucking company you very ignorant person... I am very tired of your speculating innuendoes. When we 1st met I thought you to be a Christian Brother... I have paid your phone bills in the past... I have given you expense money in the past for which you brought your son with you on a pleasure trip and to meet your book maker... you have used me and charged me... than you print lies about me... I am otta here... i am in Kansas City to sell everything i have in MLM... I am out of this mlm busiess because it envolves me with people like you... I am otta here... Goodbye Richard Snell and all people like you... Phil Piccolo --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Snells Response To Phil MY RESPONSE I should have learned from the other Piccolo MLM Games. Since you are the only Christian in the group you must think that you can walk on water and not drown. Your answer to all of your schemes is: "They took advantage of me because I am a Good Christian". I will not even put myself in a relationship with you. You have lied to everybody and then "Praise God" to help you out of your mess. Your phony Turbo Charge is why people did not want to sign up under you. You just Turbo Charged that money into your own pocket. The reason that the people are not receiving their product is because you used all their money on your own toys. Nobody can believe you because your DEALS always end up the same way. "POOR ME...THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME BECAUSE I AM A CHRISTIAN. I CAN'T PAY YOU BACK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAD TO HIRE EXPENSIVE ATTORNEYS TO GET OUR MONEY BACK.". Phil, I didn't know that you were an attorney. How much of a retainer did you pay yourself this time? I spoke to Paster Mark at Calvary Chapel Ft. Lauderdale and he says you pull the same scam on them. You promised millions to their church building and now you had to tell them that all of those HEATHENS and evil doers took all your money. You hide behind Pastor Coy anymore when troubles come your way but he can't protect you anymore. All you had to do was do as you promised and paid your commissions and my expenses. You try to get everybody on your side but nobody trusts you anymore. Even Kristen has lost her money and her faith in you. Your website looks like a three ring circus with you standing there with your whip but nobody is paying attention or following your lead. Even you partners thought that you were stupid and greedy about $812.00 for the cell phones and the $10,000.00 in fees and commissions. You lied to everyone when you said that you bought the company and now you are selling it for $50 Million Dollars!!! What a joke. The only thing you sell is AIR. God gave us AIR for free. You could make a lot of money using your abilities to BLOW HOT AIR IN BALLONS. You will be hearing a lot more from me. I believe in Omstar because of all the research I put into the company. However, I am now finding more facts on Ethos to dispute and/or clarify certain allegations. You can't stay in church all day and night. Even vampires come out at night to suck the blood (money) from people. See you then. I will stand behind Mr. Skaggs and Mr. Garland 100% until I have documented proof and then I will provide a letter of apology and retraction to 4E and Ethos. I was able to get a contract with Mr. Richard Nahao, the representative from Japan. He will be back next week and he will be very glad to hear that you are no longer with the company. Please file a suit against me for all I have said here. The Federal Courts in Houston and the Houston Chronicle will have a lot to write about this one because the people from Enron, your future cellmates, will be waiting for you. I am preparing my final notes to the field about Ethos and Omstar...we will see how it plays out!!! Richard Snell Hey folks. Interesting to come back to this forum after all these months! Wow. We have a little 20/20 vision here that we did not have a few months ago.
As many of you know, 4E went through a terribly chaotic prelaunch. Members of 4E we subjected to the incessant spam first from Phil Picallo, and then from Richard Snell. It was really bad, and it did seriously hurt the moral of 4E members, of this there is no doubt. People went elsewhere, sick and tired of this battle, and not really knowing the truth of what was happening. You can’t blame them! It was an all out war.
But here we are, in the beginning of November, and it’s an interesting veiw point. Major changes have transpired with the 4E managagement, and it is almost as if the company is recreating itself anew.
Stranger than fiction, product is shipping out, people are flying in from many countries for their Launch event, the site has been redesigned, and there are no more spam emails from Richard or Phill. I have no idea what happened to AATCM, but I heard that Phil has long left. Ironic.
4E continues to pay people week after week, without missing a beat. Though the product seems to work differently for different people due to the many variables, it does appear that people are getting consistant good results with the Ethos product.
I actually heard that Enrique is poised to go public in the very near future.
Now, I am not in any way apologizing or even claiming to know the truth about some of the drama that went on. I certainly do not. I did personally have to step back for the past months, to see what came of it, to see what the truth actually was. I still don’t know! There all kinds of inconsistancies, challenges, problems, red flags, issues, dramas etc. Oh yes there were!
But I do know that Dan Atkinson is truly dedicated to moving through all challenges, and is fully the captain of the 4E ship. And judging from the fact that: Product continues to be shipped on time, checks are being paid on time, Enrique is on track to go public from what we are told,credit cards are being accepted for purchases and for autoship, autoship has been activated, and this company seems like it is not dissapearing any time soon.
And for your entertainment purposes, I am going to copy an email I got re: a correspondence between Phil Picallo and Richard Snell. After all these two put us through, it is interesting to read this!

The following is for informational and ENTERTAINMENT purposes only!

November ,2006

Phil’s Message To Richard Snell

PHIL’S MESSAGE:

Richard Snell enough is enough… with every word that comes out of your mouth all you say is lies… I am not in Kansas with some trucking company you very ignorant person… I am very tired of your speculating innuendoes. When we 1st met I thought you to be a Christian Brother… I have paid your phone bills in the past… I have given you expense money in the past for which you brought your son with you on a pleasure trip and to meet your book maker… you have used me and charged me… than you print lies about me… I am otta here… i am in Kansas City to sell everything i have in MLM… I am out of this mlm busiess because it envolves me with people like you… I am otta here… Goodbye Richard Snell and all people like you…

Phil Piccolo

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Richard Snells Response To Phil

MY RESPONSE

I should have learned from the other Piccolo MLM Games. Since you are the only Christian in the group you must think that you can walk on water and not drown. Your answer to all of your schemes is: “They took advantage of me because I am a Good Christian”. I will not even put myself in a relationship with you. You have lied to everybody and then “Praise God” to help you out of your mess. Your phony Turbo Charge is why people did not want to sign up under you. You just Turbo Charged that money into your own pocket. The reason that the people are not receiving their product is because you used all their money on your own toys.

Nobody can believe you because your DEALS always end up the same way. “POOR ME…THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME BECAUSE I AM A CHRISTIAN. I CAN’T PAY YOU BACK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAD TO HIRE EXPENSIVE ATTORNEYS TO GET OUR MONEY BACK.”. Phil, I didn’t know that you were an attorney. How much of a retainer did you pay yourself this time? I spoke to Paster Mark at Calvary Chapel Ft. Lauderdale and he says you pull the same scam on them. You promised millions to their church building and now you had to tell them that all of those HEATHENS and evil doers took all your money. You hide behind Pastor Coy anymore when troubles come your way but he can’t protect you anymore. All you had to do was do as you promised and paid your commissions and my expenses.

You try to get everybody on your side but nobody trusts you anymore. Even Kristen has lost her money and her faith in you. Your website looks like a three ring circus with you standing there with your whip but nobody is paying attention or following your lead. Even you partners thought that you were stupid and greedy about $812.00 for the cell phones and the $10,000.00 in fees and commissions. You lied to everyone when you said that you bought the company and now you are selling it for $50 Million Dollars!!! What a joke. The only thing you sell is AIR. God gave us AIR for free. You could make a lot of money using your abilities to BLOW HOT AIR IN BALLONS. You will be hearing a lot more from me. I believe in Omstar because of all the research I put into the company. However, I am now finding more facts on Ethos to dispute and/or clarify certain allegations. You can’t stay in church all day and night. Even vampires come out at night to suck the blood (money) from people. See you then.

I will stand behind Mr. Skaggs and Mr. Garland 100% until I have documented proof and then I will provide a letter of apology and retraction to 4E and Ethos. I was able to get a contract with Mr. Richard Nahao, the representative from Japan. He will be back next week and he will be very glad to hear that you are no longer with the company.

Please file a suit against me for all I have said here. The Federal Courts in Houston and the Houston Chronicle will have a lot to write about this one because the people from Enron, your future cellmates, will be waiting for you.

I am preparing my final notes to the field about Ethos and Omstar…we will see how it plays out!!!

Richard Snell

]]> By: Joe Dynarski http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-32074 Joe Dynarski Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:05:03 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-32074 Just wanted eveyone to know Ethos work, to an etxent. It increased my gas mileage about 2mpg, but that is not enought to cover the added cost of the product. Just my 2 sense. Just wanted eveyone to know Ethos work, to an etxent. It increased my gas mileage about 2mpg, but that is not enought to cover the added cost of the product. Just my 2 sense.

]]> By: Bill Alexander http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-30779 Bill Alexander Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:56:43 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-30779 I have tried two bottles of Ethos fuel Reformulator in my 92 Merecedes diesel. I have carefully measured and recorded Ethos additions, mileage driven, and fuel used. I have found the product has no effect on my fuel mileage. I conclude that additional purchase of Ethos FR would be a waste of money and suspect the whole company is involved in fraud. Bill Alexander Mansfield, Ohio I have tried two bottles of Ethos fuel Reformulator in my 92 Merecedes diesel. I have carefully measured and recorded Ethos additions, mileage driven, and fuel used.
I have found the product has no effect on my fuel mileage. I conclude that additional purchase of Ethos FR would be a waste of money and suspect the whole company is involved in fraud.
Bill Alexander
Mansfield, Ohio

]]> By: MDJ http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-19350 MDJ Sun, 13 Aug 2006 05:25:36 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-19350 I believe I just read a blog dated 8/11/06 in which David Reid admits to another former distributor that his downline has fizzled and that he is looking for "greener pastures". Is this the same David Reid as mentioned above? With the amount of available information out there, I am shocked that many are still with 4-E Corporation. My hope and prayer is that they will take the time to investigate on their own (as I did) before bringing anyone else into their downlines. I believe I just read a blog dated 8/11/06 in which David Reid admits to another former distributor that his downline has fizzled and that he is looking for “greener pastures”. Is this the same David Reid as mentioned above?

With the amount of available information out there, I am shocked that many are still with 4-E Corporation. My hope and prayer is that they will take the time to investigate on their own (as I did) before bringing anyone else into their downlines.

]]> By: MrGasMan http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/2006/04/17/ethos-fr-takes-on-bioperformance/comment-page-1/#comment-19312 MrGasMan Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:11:33 +0000 http://mlm.business-opportunities.biz/?p=643#comment-19312 All this 4E and Ethos talk does make me smile. And as most are already aware D-1280X is out there too. Nothing against MLM, just not one for it myself. Have you checked on D1280X through Interpacific. Because now it is selling retail with no MLM membership required. http://www.interpacific.biz http://www.d1280x.info I think people are going to find it fast enough and realize whats going on. All this 4E and Ethos talk does make me smile. And as most are already aware D-1280X is out there too. Nothing against MLM, just not one for it myself. Have you checked on D1280X through Interpacific. Because now it is selling retail with no MLM membership required.

http://www.interpacific.biz
http://www.d1280x.info

I think people are going to find it fast enough and realize whats going on.

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